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Grover is clearly not what it was. The tuners look good, the hold tune, but they are not smooth at all when turning, they are jumpy and the material feel a little cheaper than other grovers that I had from a Chinese Guild guitar over 10 years old and the feel much better and they are as smooth as butter to turn and hold tune even better. For this quality, way over priced. I bought this tuning pegs at 80 euros here, I see now the lower the price to 60. Still would not buy them again. I suggest you to try Gotoh.