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I wanted a dark but long delay ride for light jazz work and this cymbal fits the bill perfectly with sticks, rods and brushes. There is no persistent overtone ring just a wonderful wash that blends with the band. It has power when required and a beautiful ping on the bell. The attack is crisp but not overpowering and there are a myriad of tones that can be attained by careful stick placement a definite 5 * from me.