Thomann CMS-600 S C- Melody Sax

I usually play Bb tenor or Eb alto with jazz musicians, but do occasionally enjoy playing with blues or rock musicians who tend to play in keys that suit the guitar, like E and A major. For alto players, the guitar key of E major has to be transposed into C# major with seven sharps, or, on tenor, F# major with six sharps

Now, playing seven sharps can be managed but it is a bit of a challenge particularly in fast tempi and improvised solos, hence the attraction of a C-melody sax.

C-melody saxes were very popular in the 1920s and can often be found for sale on eBay, particularly in the United States. There are some very good instruments available, but the downsides to buying one this way are that the instrument pitch may not be aligned with today?s 440 tunings, there will be increased shipping charges to Europe, and very little consumer protection if you?ve been unfortunate enough to buy a dud.

I looked at other modern various offerings mainly from China, but decided to go for the instrument retailed by Thomann because they have to maintain their reputation with good quality control and with European consumer protection.

The instrument came in a lightweight case with shoulder straps. I like the lightness of the case but it?s perhaps not very sturdy ? only time will tell. There is an outer panel on the case, but it is not terribly useful as it is too small to carry music scores or, say, a lightweight stand; a larger outer pocket would be useful. Inside the case is the saxophone, neck and Zinner 62C Ebonite 4C mouthpiece with ligature and guard, as well as two No2 Thomann also reeds, a neck strap, a pad saver (love them or hate them?), a cleaning cloth and a pair of white cotton gloves. Three of the lower keys came with removable plastic inserts to protect them during transit.

Once assembled, how does it sound? Well,I didn?t expect it to sound like a Selmer VI, but once I had swapped the Zinner mouthpiece for an alto metal No7 with strength 2.5 and 3 reeds, I found that I was getting a good free-flowing sound throughout the range except perhaps with top G which is a bit shrill. However, I?m pleased with the overall sound which (dependent upon the mouthpiece chosen) is suitable for everything from classical through jazz to blues.

Getting the best mouthpiece/reed combination is a matter of personal choice but I really did not like the Zinner which had an excessively warm (to the point of being muffled) sound in the middle range. I found it difficult above top D and impossible at the low B/Bb. I tried harder alto reeds which made little difference, as well as tenor reeds which did not fit at all well. The Zinner 4C with a #2 reed might suit some people but I would strongly suggest that people try other combinations. Alto mouthpieces seem to fit the neck.

The neck has a tuning mechanism which I have not seen before. That seems to work well enough and I assume that it was designed to accommodate and fine tune (alto) mouthpieces with different characteristics. The corked end of the crook does feel slightly loose but that does not seem to affect the sound. From a health point of view, I expect that the tuning mechanism could be a breeding ground for germs and should be cleaned regularly.

How does it feel? I agree with comments in other reviews that the key layout and spacing is not ideal. For the left hand, location and layout of the keys for the little finger are awkward, particularly for the bottom Bb. With the right hand, the thumb rest seems rather low down compared with the side levers for Bb and C. Ideally all the side levers should be within easy reach.

In summary, yes, there are issues about key layout and getting a suitable mouthpiece, but it makes a decent sound and does what it says on the tin. I have no regrets about purchasing the Thomann CMS-600 S C- Melody Sax.

It also looks good.

UPDATE: Having become more used to this instrument, my initial concerns about the layout of the right hand side levers is no longer an issue for me. I have just become used to it and find that I compensate without thinking about it.

The mouthpiece is critical for getting a a good sound. As I wrote above, the supplied Zinner mouthpiece did not work for me at all. While my metal alto mouthpiece was pretty good, the top G was very shrill. However, since then I have been playing with my old Otto Link Tone Edge 6* ebonite alto mouthpiece, and found that it is ideal for this sax using Rigotti Gold No3 reeds. This combination gives me a good free blowing and consistent sound from bottom Bb through to top G - sounds good all the way. Embouchure is a very personal thing so what suits me may not be ideal for others.

I've been playing in arty little dance and improvising bands for 40 years , mostly alto and tenor . Until recently it never occurred to me to consider a C-melody sax . I became interested in acquiring one primarily because I am so slow at transposition and a lot of music I want to learn is written for instruments in C . What does a C-melody sound and feel like? This CMS-600 S C-melody with the right mouthpiece has a very compelling and supple sound to my ear . It is also a beautiful and solidly built horn . Thomas provides a very good mouthpiece which I will use but I'm also enjoying playing with a Morgan C5 immensely . Before I bought this horn I acquired a newly manufactured unbranded C melody from China which has very good intonation and sound as well as quite decent playability BUT the clunkiest octave mechanism I've ever tried to work with . I immediately started searching for a more modern design . The CMS-600 S C-melody 's octave key works great !! My main " complaint " about this horn is that if you don't have large hands / long fingers you have to do some serious stretching and quick repositioning on many occasions ( playing high E , F and low B , B flat ) Though I wish it was designed more like my P. Mauriat alto and tenor , key layout wise , I am getting used to it and do love its significantly strong sound. Already my band is arranging and composing material to incorporate its distinct voice

I've wanted a C-Melody Sax for years - mainly because they were popular in the (distant) past for playing traditional Irish music: it's easy to get the D scale you require in order to be in the same pitch as e.g. the uillean pipes, timber flute and indeed any of the "traditional" instruments, which are usually pitched in D although of course the music is not confined to that key.

I opted for the silver plated sax. It truly is a beautiful instrument and met all my expectations. It's easy to play and produces a range of timbres from raunchy to sweetly melodic, everything you would expect from a sax. It's robust but also easy on the eye. Details like the fine tuner on the mouthpiece show that it has been designed with care and from experience.

The case it came in is excellent, light but sturdy and functional, and I was pleased to be supplied with a reed - it's not clear from the site what reeds are required for this particular instrument but it seems straightforward alto reeds do the job. Also supplied was a pad-saver and various cloths for cleaning the instrument, and some cute cotton gloves to help avoid fingerprints. A couple of swabs would have been useful and this is something I will have to improvise. A spare mouthpiece was a further welcome inclusion.

I can't fault the instrument itself and look forward to many happy hours interrogating its capacities.

My Thomann CMS-600 S C- Melody Sax arrived and it is defective. The neck does not align with the body, so that when the neck is attached the octave key is held open, making the saxophone utterly useless. As required by customer service, I sent them multiple photos showing the defect, and I offered to accept a replacement instrument rather than refund. Today they sent me an email that claims the neck had been pushed "too firmly" onto the saxophone, so that the neck keys bent. Not only is this not what happened, but the photos I sent them showed that to be impossible. As received, the neck could not be pushed firmly onto the instrument as they suggest because of the defect. In order to get the neck onto the saxophone, you have to lift the octave mechanism, which is then held open at all times. My photos prove beyond doubt that this is a defective instrument as received. It was not damaged in shipping and was not damaged after receipt. Thomann refuses to acknowledge the truth and refuses to do the right thing. I would never advise anybody to do business with them, and I will be reporting them to international consumer services.

I bought one of these to play in a band with guitar/keyboard. Have always been an alto player but secretly wanted to try tenor. This seemed like a halfway house.
The sax has a nice tone and intonation.
It has a very awkward octave key on the right side of the button. It requires to you to rock your thumb forward and hold in an uncomfortable position.
I quickly got cramp playing this. This has never been a problem with the 4 other saxes I've played. I have managed to improve it by altering the thumb pad angle with sugru.
They also sent it with a clarinet mouthpiece and no reeds. They wanted me to email them pics of the wrong mouthpiece as proof before they'd send the right one which felt impolite and suspicious when they should have been apologising profusely for their cock-up. The eventually supplied C-mouthpiece doesn't have C-specific reeds. Tenor ones fit width-wise, but they are too long proximal and need to be trimmed. This was not explained.
Zinner who made the mouthpiece have gone tits-up which may ecpain the reluctance to send me one I would check if you plan to buy this sax that they have a supplier of decent C-melody mouthpieces.