i use this cymbal in a ritual percussion set up, not as part of a drum kit. when struck hard, it has a harsh, slightly gong-like ring to it, though not too hissy. i've used it several time together with a lager china as a set of hand-held cymbal, which made its typical sharp sound come out quite distinctly. plus after a good deal of grinding, beating and dropping, it still looks unscathed. would definitely buy one again if mine decided to repatriate.